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===Should this page exist? ===
With the old wiki, This page served a function as a public user list. On Wikia, there is a [[Special:ListUsers]] page that serves that function. Historically, this page was so heavily targeted by spammers that there were 450 changes in the last 2 months of its existence, when I was trying diligently to just keep the obvious new spam links out, i.e. on a typical day there would be 4 changes to add spam links and 4 removals. That has improved greatly at Wikia, but I'm pretty sure that a large fraction of the 'User' entries are really only here because some time ago a link-spammer put them on the old site and they didn't look spammy enough for anyone to remove them. I don't think it is worthwhile and maybe not even possible to sift out the legitimate personal entries from the bogus ones. even if someone adopted the task and did a reasonable job, would it be better than the [[Special:ListUsers]] page?

That just leaves the organizational user list, which may suffer from a similar problem despite at least one attempt to clean out the certain junk. If it is presumed accurate, is it worthwhile?

IMHO, the individual list should go and the org list swept for dubious cases (Vita-Mix? Really???) Anyone else have thoughts on that?

[[User:BillCole|BillCole]] 20:20, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

: Special:ListUsers is not at all similar to RTUsers. ListUsers is just a list of Wikia registered users who've edited pages here. RTUsers is supposed to be a more extensive list of folks who use RT. Does that make sense? Am I missing something? [[User:Tsibley|Tsibley]] 20:32, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
:: RTUsers is '''''really''''' a list of folks who use RT and have made an edit to the RTUsers page, probably, at some point in the last decade or so. On the other hand, Special:ListUsers can show people who have pages in the RT wiki's User namespace but who have never made any edits. At the Kwiki->Wifty import (June 2007) the list was 266 names long. At the Wifty->MediaWiki/Wikia import the headcount was 435. So even assuming that there are no bogus entries, the majority are pretty old. Beyond that, it isn't clear to me what purpose the list of individual users is supposed to serve, so it isn't clear to me whether it could be cleaned up, pruned, restructured, etc. to make it something useful. It isn't that I '''''want''''' the page gone gone, but more that since the Wikia migration meant I wasn't firefighting against constant vandalism, I noticed that the individual section of the page really may not be providing any particularly useful information worth defending. [[User:BillCole|BillCole]] 06:04, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
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::: RTUsers is also added to by people who notice when they get a response from an RT instance. Some of the more notable (and accurate, I'll point out) corporate entries on the list were added that way. The majority of the entries ''are'' old, but it's next to impossible to prune accurately and there are certainly accurate newer entries. (I actually read the entire page thoroughly a few months ago, and ended up writing an annotation tool that tells me when a line was added to the page.)
::: The purpose of the page is simply showing people, "Hey, these folks use RT too, you're in (hopefully!) good company." It's a free-form version of http://bestpractical.com/rt/who.html. For the record, Vitamix indeed seems to have used RT at one point: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/rt/users/54820#54820.

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BillCole: Existential doubts

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Existential doubts

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